Creating from the void and releasing attachments to be part of change on the planet

Keri Norley 

 Hello and welcome to this episode of the wealth Alchemist podcast. My name is Keri Norley. I am the host of the show. And today I have a beautiful friend Miss Mia more on the show with me. And I'm gonna read you her bio but I'll tell you it doesn't do her justice. She grew up in the Arctic and completed her education around the world particularly studying rituals and embodied expression among various cultures. She focuses on psychosomatic power of movement and expression and her latest studies and teachings come in the world of archetypes cosmology in both esoteric and physical realms and authentic relating and intimacy. She's a body worker specializing in both erotic and shamanic sessions for over five years. She runs online courses around astrology, women's work, the embodiment of the void, and the encouragement of the embodiment of all of our power and basically how to use love. Sorry, on a mission and purpose in love and through the pain of being human. What I'm going to say about Ms. Mia, I met Mia two years ago well spiral in Bali. And this woman has a presence about her a mystery about her a power about her that is so magnetic in a way that I have never experienced with any other woman and I say that true like truly from the heart i She is truly an angel on this planet. And I just said before we got on that shows up because it's like a fairy who dances through the forests she's such a forest fairy and and it's just such a beautiful beautiful I'm so grateful to have you on here and not only that it will also share that whilst me it didn't say this on here she's done so much amazing work in the void stuff in with astrology in with so I'm one of the things that fascinates you fascinates me about you, me as well as how this all ties into like the sexuality work that you do. And and bringing bringing light into the sex world into the sex work world you know, and how we can actually create so much transformation through that. And so it is truly like you guys just buckle in your seats because it's gonna come from me it comes from a completely different perspective and is going to bring you like a mind blowing experience that's going to stretch you out of your comfort zone for sure. I have no doubt about it. With that said

I just have to live up to the expectations.

Keri Norley 

You have to be unity that welcome to the show Okay, Miss me on. Do you want to start with telling us I guess a little bit I mean, we started talking about ah, we were talking before we got on the show and I really want to bring this into we were both talking about me is in Byron area in Australia and in northern New South Wales. And they are currently under massive floods, people are being evacuated animals cows I've seen like it's it looks pretty horrendous, like, I mean full floors going. And we were also talking because at this point in time, we've just had Ukraine got invaded by Russia. So we've got all sorts of stuff and I was saying to her that we have a mic open telegram today. And amongst all of it, it's just kind Coming like, Oh my God, it is so intense to be in the world right now. And so we wanted to have a conversation today around that like around what's happening in this world, and not only what's happening in the world, but how does that tie into all of us as individuals? And where does all of this work that she does around the void and the dark, dark aspects of things, and shadow and wounding and all these kinds of things? How does this all tie in together? And how can we create a change on the planet? So please stick in hang in for this because it's gonna get juicy. So on that note, Miss, can you please start telling like, first of all, how did you even get into this type of work? And what is like, what do you start to talk about the void? Right? I think that's one of the like, it's funny, the void, like it is such a void word, right? What does that even mean?

Mia Mor 

Awesome. I think there's, I mean, there's been a big journey that I've done. And if I trace my steps back in time, I usually look at it as countries instead of timelines, like, I have no idea where it was in 2014. But then I started tracing back and I was in that part of the world. And I was traveling and I had this piece that kept coming up, which was around sexuality, and and people getting attracted to me. And I was like, What is this about icon just my conscious comfortably hitchhiked my way through the world without negotiating my almost safety, but more so my femininity, because I grew up quite masculine. And I've got a lot of like, go getter, I can just do whatever I want style of going about the world, I wouldn't never associated with someone needing to help me out. Besides, you know, paycheck in the world. But I wanted to go to school, which happened to be a star, do a bunch of initiations, around sexuality, and happen to end up going really deep into that world, thanks to Bruce Lee. And one of my influences.

Keri Norley 

What that is, because it won't normally start

Mia Mor 

is International School of Temple arts. It's one of the kind of Shamanic schools of sexuality. So they lend a lot of different theories and styles, but they try to keep it really open to the transpersonal realm. So everything that we are to each other is archetypal. Like, we're not just relating as one human to another, we have a lineage of histories, we have a lineage of what we represent to each other. And these certain archetypes keep playing out over and over again, in the world. It's the same thing. I looked at the news as well. And I'm really noticing Putin make a speech that sounds like Stalin speech. And that's one of the like, Oh, he's he's really in the archetypal, you know, tie or end of Russia. thing, and I'm like, Oh, I know this, I know this in my body, I know how to relate with that, even if I don't know what he's actually going through. So there's layers to our field, which kind of relates back to how I learned about the void, which was through this model of the three rings, and encompasses astrology and compasses, cosmology, and, like quantum physics, and it relates to how we relate to each other. And the first layer of that is personality, our planetary human being, which is just me as how I grew up, you know, have different conditionings, I have different food preferences and music tastes. But then there's the archetypal realm, which is kind of transpersonal and comes kind of closer to the middle and the center, which relates to our soul, and relates to a deeper and longer incarnational. Path and what we're here to do and our purpose work, and in some sense, what we've already learned and know from a different perspective, right? Like we have these remembrance is like, I know this, I'm supposed to be doing this, I feel like rational and alive when I put myself in this role or this position, and soulmates and you know, everything that's hard about the soul is transpersonal. Like, it's not just us, it's not just me relating to the world, it's me as a, whatever I look like, or whatever people project on me. And then there's the layer where we get to strip that all down. And I consider the void, a place where we dissolve from personal ego from any sort of individuality, to our being, almost from the polarity of relating, we go into singularity, essentially. And the black hole has been such a beautiful statement to that. And it's only you know, we've only discovered them in the 70s or something. So it's it's a fairly new concept in physics as well as in our world and how it relates to all of the other fields. But that has been my source of Power in some sense, but just as a way of letting go of like, I'm not actually I'm not anything, I'm nothing. And the more I can allow that to come through me, the more I can just do the thing that needs to be done. It's almost just allowing life. Love whatever you feel like a is like all this is life just coursing through me, I can't help but give myself in this way. So that's the place I try to create from an offer things teachings from and, yeah, it's also been an interesting shift in towards my sexuality and relating, like, I don't want to have a, like a frictional conflict or polarity based relationship anymore. It's really based on where do we meet? And where can we merge as beings? And how do we then create almost a group field, we all vibrate in the same frequency. And that becomes a powerful, more powerful agent of change.

Keri Norley 

I love watching you have have I love watching how you relate. I think it's amazing. I do I think it's so powerful. Okay, so when you come into the void, so funny, because I remember when he first when I first started talking to you about this, and there's like the question, right, you say it's when you can let it all go when you're in the nothing? And yeah, I would say as a human, that is not easy. Right? Like, we don't want to let it go. That's not like, I mean, that's why we have war right now, right? We don't want to let it go. We want to be in power, we want to our ego runs things, all that kind of stuff. So it's an easy, it's kind of like lyrically, it's easy to say, but like how do you actually start to break free of these, the attachments? Right, the attachments that are keeping us bound into ego and ego, an egoic choice. So that in our mind, right? I know, even for me, like it was really interesting. I was talking to my therapist the other day, actually, we were talking about things that bring me joy. And I was saying something about the dance floor. Right? You and I both agree, right? How can I lose myself is on the dance floor. And like, there's moments on the dance floor where my mind is still going at me and even even Hey, right? Sometimes it's nice, sometimes it's not so nice, right? And then I'm like, then you hit that moment of bliss. And you're like, there's nothing. You're so in your body. And there's nothing. There's nothing else on this planet except for you and your body and the movement. And, and I'm and I'm guessing I'm going to say like, that's kind of when we start to drop into that nothing right like that there is just we're not in thought we're not in, right. But I find that is that yes. Is that we're? No, yeah, I'm, um,

Mia Mor 

I think the difference that I make between kind of void of the consciousness where we go into meditation, and we just expose the mental chatter, which is, you know, a big part of it. I relate to the voyage through the body, which is, again, a more rare treat, like you kind of have to have an acuity of a lot of embodiment practices to come into awareness of all of those places where we're not aware, we're resisting, and this tension, and there's a lot of emotional body stuff starts getting activated. And so much of the Void practice that I've offered through the years, is just exposing people to how much shit they have, and they carry around, and we slowly start to unpack and we like take almost these tiny little steps of moving through the fears, the attachments, and because most of the attachment lives in the base, or lives in our genitals lives in that area of our body where it's like a tide, it's connected to survival, it's connected to fertility and creativity. It's almost the hardest to look at. And the more conditioning of shame around that area you have, I think it's going to take even longer to kind of start to unpack what the power in there is. And yeah, what you're describing about the dance floor, I feel like we get into the states of okay, I'm starting to shake, I'm starting to move my body so that this current starts to run and potentially through just pure movement without having to create content about what it's about. We can actually, I guess, expressing is almost releasing the stuff that's there. So I've got a background in dance movement therapy, or I've done some studies on it, and I didn't complete it because I felt like there was still a box that therapeutics are stuck in in the western psychological sense. And I wanted to include sexuality. I wanted to include ritual space, and that's what I found and that's what I went in search I have, and when you include those things, like I started having orgasms on the dance floor, and I was like, What is this about? Like, why am I moving so much of my shit through the body that I'm getting into bliss state. And in the end of that, once you've kind of moved everything, you get into that void where there's a choice, you can stay still, because you feel complete and you feel empty, and you feel present and alive and just in one with it all. Or there's a place where from that you can allow movement to come through you. I guess that's where the magic starts to almost ripple out of us. Like our authentic being our, the greater self or the Greater Life dances me, instead of me trying to impose movement or instruction on myself. And I've noticed doing this practices over and over how the mind is so small, like our capacity to consciously understand what's going on right now is so limited, but the body's capacity to express it and to move with it, and then come into those places where it all kind of is vibrates through. And we can start knowing ah, this is what I was, this is how I fit into this equation. This is what I'm here to do. I wish this was a practice, you know, used in Parliament's political conferences right now.

Like, let's just let's just have an ecstatic dance first and then make decisions.

Keri Norley 

Right, I was just sitting here thinking okay, so on that note, right. For our listeners, what are ways that people can I mean, yes, just go fine. If you if you are listening, because I don't I mean, I've, I share a lot about on social media, I don't know how much to talk about it on my podcast. Like I said, I love ecstatic dance, like I offered as possible, but there's like a weekly dance. I mean, obviously, it ends at home. But there's a weekly dance to that we have that's amazing around here that I just love. So if you heard, like, look in your local areas, like just look for start looking for dance places, because one of the best ways to explore and to free yourself of things is it is and I love how you said it. Because I always say the same thing. It's like you let the you let the dance move you you let the world move you. And all of a sudden, like, you start to build a relationship with source. You know, it's like if I were to really I remember one night recently on the dance floor, and I was like, like, source was like your universe, whatever you whatever you wanna, you know, I was being very, very divinely guided and told very clearly that you were going to listen to me carry, you're going to do every single thing that I asked of you. And it was like a dance with Divine Right. And I was like, Okay, well, I surrender. And I was like, Okay, well, which foot? Do you want me to move? Which which arm? You want me? Oh, you want me to go over here? Okay, well, you want. And it was like this beautiful, like, how far can we surrender our own self, to the greater, right. And then when our body is allowed to move in this way. I mean, it is orgasmic it is like, you can lose yourself. And it's also like, this is the piece that I wanted to ask her because first of all, you can go dance. And you can answer your house just put on some music and dance likelihood, you probably don't want to necessarily have a lot of words in that music pick for you right now for your sake, because your words and your music might not be very helpful for you right now. And, okay, so besides that, though, like what are ways that people can start to, like, I guess, shift to allow, and I know, I'm gonna ask this, even if I don't have a truck, I'm gonna say like, if I was to have time to go for a dance, and I can feel the mind taking over and the ego taking over? What are ways that we can drop down into that void place to be able to shift out of when life is going on? And it's crazy, and I'm like, I'm busy. I got this business nurse, like, what are some tactics that we can use for that?

Mia Mor 

Well, I usually like I host a dance weekly, but I also go to someone else's dance weekly, because I know that I need to be held in that container. And especially I feel like I need to go when I feel like I have resistance when I feel like the worlds colliding on me. There's too much going on. I can't even cope with what's in my personal field. That's the that's the always

Keri Norley 

that's when I need to go dance when I wanted. Most of them I could think of my kids because I'm like mom, like I really don't want to that means you have to go

Mia Mor 

Yeah, yeah, because you're like some people tell me like Dane tells me all the time like you need to go dance like you need to. You need to express some of this out so that it's not coming into passive aggressiveness. It's not coming into anything. When your COC feels full of stress and emotion and confusion and mental activity that's the best time to go I've almost like dragged myself in the end of the day it just like I need to just get to this dance floor I'll be fine. Once I'm there. I don't need to talk to anyone for two hours. I don't need to you know I don't owe anyone anything. And I can just let the body do the practice. You know, you don't have to show up in any which way. It's, I think it's even blissful to dance from a place of being tired, and your body being broken. And okay, I'm just going to move the way I can really gently. And you know, I do contact dance. So I have an amazing now I've have an amazing tribe of humans who just come and dance with me and move me. And I can feel that surrender in real time, not just to the greater music, but to each other as a community. And that's literally

Keri Norley 

for those who don't what I've been building what contact answers is, you have to be in contact with a person at any any party body part at any given point. Yeah, I started playing with it lately, too. It's definitely challenged challenged me in a good way, right? Like, because, yeah, move into places that sometimes it's not comfortable, there were sweaty people or

whatever, like the whole very sweaty,

Keri Norley 

like part of it. I want to go into that space.

Mia Mor 

We had a we had a dance after New Year's, like everyone in our dance community was at the same place for New Year's, and then we all got COVID together. And then we have this COVID Positive dance, and I couldn't smell anything. And I was like, Ah, this is quite interesting. I can't smell people sweat. You know, I can't smell their body odor as well. We're dancing like this is actually kind of cool. But then I also had this huge, like, I started sensing someone's smell again. And it was like, oh, it's back. Like

I'm so blissful to feel someone else's, like sweaty body odor. Again, I'm so grateful. So buddy,

Mia Mor 

anyway, we went through that. And I spent the whole of basically the whole pandemic time building community of dancers. So I've put in the hours to create a space that's safe for us to come and dance in. I've spent a lot of time educating and bringing people into that contact place. And it's feel it's still edgy. And I know that and I'm aware of that it's induces fear in those who look upon us. But it's such a shift in being able to share your experience and your body and movement. And there's like different brain chemicals that get released. And I think it's one of the most healing things in the world.

Keri Norley 

This this last little while I've been exploring it every time something else heals in me without a failure. Literally the one of the last answers I had, I literally just sit down afterwards to be like to breathe it into my body of how powerful the experience was. And when he is an is a woman who is desiring to allow myself to surrender more and more and more into the feminine and let a man fully lead, right? Yeah, that dance is such a powerful dance to be like, I'm going to fully trust that you will hold me and I'm going to fully trust figure out how I'm going to move to meet you. And I'm just going to surrender into this. And it's so so so powerful, and then also to trust that it's going to be safe. You know, like there's a lot that goes into that. It's such a powerful experience. So yeah, you're in the if you're in the Byron area, anyone who's listening, find me out and go just start and start dancing. If you're in Denver, I can tell you where you can go, you can go to rhythm sanctuary for anyone who's listening, or have you been contacting me just go to rhythm sanctuary every Thursday. There's also a dance in Denver, at the circus collective. I think on Sunday mornings, I can't remember I haven't actually been to that one. But those are I can tell you about Denver and in those areas

Mia Mor 

I just want to comment on because I feel like trust and safety are such big pieces. And once you have an embodied feeling of trusting someone and being safe with someone, even if it's you know, even if it's clumsy, even if it's edgy, even if it's bringing up all the other stuff. That's like that's what I mean about healing the world through the body, and almost creating nervous system ease for the animal and all of those attachment wounds and styles. And a lot of the work is just feeling not alone with whatever you're going through. And the easiest way to do that with someone is without words and just being in touch with them. That's why hugs you know, contact that's why I was so against restrictions around social distancing, because I was like, Well, this is gonna destroy our ability to trust and feel safe in the world. And here we are

today. Still feeling very unsafe and very distrustful towards the collective.

Keri Norley 

Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay, so first of all, actually, besides dance, what's the way we can get into this woody place?

Mia Mor 

Um, I would I've I create some soundscapes, and I do One and a half hour long rituals into the void. And I've done that sometimes alone, but I feel like again, being together really helps because you have that nervous system piece where you can feel when you're anxious and you can feel when you're not when you're moving from a place of calm. So I think just learning how to regulate your own body is one of the first steps and, you know, I tell people to come to contact before they can come to avoid, because it's, it's this rite of passage into, you're okay with touch, and you're okay with holding yourself in that space, you know how to regulate and navigate what's what's okay for your nervous system, what's not. Besides that, it's, it is somehow tied to meditation in terms of it's the gap between everything, and we kind of have to just slip into it. And brand through breath through, it's almost like I just drop everything in my body, I tried to really release the tensions I really tried to go into a place of not dissociating from the body, but actually, in like going into the body, into the cells going into the tiniest little molecules of it that I can somehow get contact with, and dissolve, and release in that level, I can like we're doing this motion of like, letting these bubbles kind of burst, whatever is there, whatever is held, slowing down helps a lot. So I do soundtracks, and I just put heartbeat onto it. And I put whale sounds onto it. And it feels like you're going back into a womb like state. And there's a lot of theory around why that works. But basically, it's creating a space of a cocoon. And almost going back into that futile self like when when we're still unborn, and we used to be held by the world and the cosmos is so much smaller around us. So yeah, I make some references in my work to the Cosmic Womb. I work a lot with women and awakening that and going into the void through the womb. And I feel like that's, that's the embodied dark. And along the way, we obviously encounter all of our unconscious shadow, tension trauma. So it also takes courage, it takes courage to go to those places, and instead of getting stuck with the identity of the trauma or the whatever the story that we had when we created it, going through it and allowing it to run through our body and using a lot of emotional release to actually express it and get rid of it in some way.

Keri Norley 

I love this I love how you're speaking this. So my question for you before we move on because I want to go into where we just were with these attachments and the shadow and all these things and how this all relates to everything. Why is Why is being able to drop into this body place important how does this help people

Mia Mor 

like I described the three rings of personal transpersonal and then void I I feel like there's something beyond us as humans just surviving on this planet. Like it's not satisfying to me to just think that's that's enough, you know, as long as we can feed ourselves, clothe ourselves procreate and you know, raise another generation that's that never felt like enough for me that didn't feel like my mission. That's why I went around the planet I went to look for what else is there? How many different lifestyles Can I have in one lifetime? How many crazy experiences can I be involved in that feel like they're on the edges of what's possible. And I was doing a lot of that, I guess from a soul place where I relate to myself as a soul and I want to meet other souls who are vibrating with me and we know we're reincarnation we're like multi dimensional beings. So death isn't the end of it. You're not getting you know, a getaway for free card once you die you you still carry on in some sense. And that and my like history with depression kind of led me into looking at the nothingness and the void of not just kind of the blissful part, but actually when you feel like you want to die, and that was that was part of the initiation going through the motions of but there's a huge part of me that doesn't want to be here doesn't want to be on this planet. And I think we, we, a lot of us go through dark nights of the soul in that place and usually seek psychiatric help or like depression medication or you know, like we have to get out of it. And we have to suppress it somewhere like we can't go into deeper into those holes. And then at some point, my life shifted when I instead of avoiding, and judging myself for having dark times, started going into it almost like embracing the darkness in me, and not judging it for being better or worse than any other emotional state. And then I started noticing these polarities, like, oh, we need stagnancy. In order to create activation, we need sorrow, to create happiness, we need, like, you know, these are just equations, we need to know what fear is, in order to know what love is. And also, that was a place where I allowed some part of myself to die to the attachment of ego or attachment of me making something out of myself in this planet. And letting go of that is so liberating. It's a different kind of enlightenment, it's just like, Ah, I can just be and I can let, then I can let life really course through me because I'm not attached to the outcome. But I feel like I need to be here. So it's been a lot of rituals, a lot of steps, a lot of challenges along the way, where I need to choose to be alive. But first, I need to choose to die to the parts of myself that don't want to be here, and allow those to kind of go let go of them. Because otherwise, our subconscious always wins. It gets the better of us, like wherever we have suppressed, hidden on undealt with fears, or traumas, I feel like they're gonna run our lives, we're going to encounter them again and again and again.

Keri Norley 

Okay, there's a few things you said there that I wanted to go into one of them being you were talking about from this darkness from this, this space. And it made me think of how, like from this place, this is how we've created so much from the you know, we can't have joy, without fear without, you know, and all these kinds of things. And it made me actually come back into this place of like, if we look at this big picture now, right in order to come into the darkness. And you said we have to this is what was you said, we have to embrace it. Right. And it's interesting, because I look at, like, if we bring this back to the bigger picture right now, right? If we bring this back to like what's going on in the planet right now, which is what we were saying at the beginning of this, then I think it's so fascinating to me, that you and you and I would both I mean, we didn't talk at the time at the beginning of all this, but I know you and I would have both had the same thought process that of course, this is what gets to happen. Of course, we're gonna go through this darkness, of course, we're having the dark night of the soul. And we have to walk through it like there's no way through except for through. And, and you and I would both also probably agree, and I'm not going to put words in your mouth. But I think you would agree with me that we knew that in order for this happen, just like there's an ego death, they're going to quite literally be physical death, because some people cannot hold the vibration of this planet right now. Or where we're going into the planet, or they weren't not meant to be here anymore, or their souls purpose was done, or they're going on to ascend to help us from the other place, like whatever it is, right? This had to happen. And so when we start to look at that, though, we start to think if I embrace the death, if I embrace the darkness, I mean, that's literally what's happening on the planet. And the more that I've been able to and I know this is it's been not It's not easy. I don't think any of what's going on on this planet, no matter what perspective we take on this is easy. It's, it's, it's intense to be alive right now. Right? And we chose this. And I think when we start to do that, we can go okay, well, if I walk into the darkness, if I surrender in this is what is here, how can I also then be a part of it without being a part of it? Right? Without being like attached to that this is the like, this is reality? Because at the end of the day, it's just an illusion. Yeah, but I still have to surrender into the illusion that is here. Right? And allow for like, this is what it is, instead of like I see, I think a lot of what I see on the other side of it is I'm going to pretend that it doesn't exist by putting up some barriers that say, if I am not going to be really political, you know what I want to say me? If I should take these other choices, and I put my put my power outside of myself by by trusting in the medical system by trusting in the politics by trusting and all this, we're not actually embracing the darkness because we're wanting to try and stay in that light.

Mia Mor 

Yeah. There's a big difference. I had a I had a very visceral kind of medicine experience of facing the fear You're up death. And that's happened a few times, like I grew up as a child having panic attacks, and just like really almost like, literally running away from the darkness. So I've definitely been on that side, I completely know what nervous nervous system overwhelm. And that place is where we just can't deal and we need to run and you know, want to make safety happen. But somewhere in my 20s, I realized there's the fear of death is so much bigger than death itself. Death itself is blissful, like you actually that's, you know, the ultimate ways you let go. And then we can die to the physical, but we also, and this is what I mean, we can die to the ego, we can die to almost the souls mission and everything that we touched upon ourselves, we can let those parts die quite safely, if our nervous system can be regulated, and just let go. But the fear of death is so much what I see driving this planet right now. And I can see how the news the media is just constantly playing on us through that they're triggering that fear of death. But what if we change our perspective and say, like death is not to be feared for I can see it now I can, almost like I can feel it in my body, looking at Ukrainian people getting into arms and being no fighting for their country. And it's there is something that triggers us to that place of, I know, it's going to be dangerous. But this is more important. I wish for us all to have that kind of courage I can I can feel it from my national lineage. Like we did that once upon a time, all of our nation rose up against the Russians, and defended our country, our land, and it's more about the land and what how it feeds us and we have a connection to it. And we just want to stay in connection to it. And that place is more powerful than the fear of death. Like there is such a thing as courage and like standing for something. And usually it only happens when we lose something. When we lose the conference, we lose some part of us or we lose, you know, we've lost loved ones, I'm sure in the last two years like its death has been very real death has very present in many levels. I can relate that to Pluto. And we can talk about the kind of the astrology of it. But mostly, I started almost orienting myself, I'm going to worship Pluto. I know this is coming. I know it's going to be tough. It's another kind of world wide disasters zone. And we're still going through it and trudging along, the more I can accept death and let go of the things that are lost, the better off I'm going to be the better able I am to be present to what needs to be done in the moment.

Keri Norley 

Yeah, it's hard to say it Sure, just really briefly, because I know Pluto could go on for ages. But and, and by the way to anyone who wants full astrology stuff, I did do an astrology conversation maybe for I don't know, earlier this year, sometime in January came out when you hear this podcast, so you can go and listen to that. But I'm really curious to hear your perspective on on what's going on with Pluto right now. Because Pluto is a big, it's a big thing happening in the world right now.

Mia Mor 

Yeah, and it has been since the beginning of 2020. Like it was, you know, astrologers were really convinced like Saturn and Pluto conjunct thing and meeting in the skies, and the beginning of 2020 is going to be huge. And the world's gonna go into turmoil, there's going to be some form we didn't know at the time, like, at the time I was here, Australia was burning. So we thought it was gonna be forest fires than we thought it was gonna be World War Three, because Trump did something. And soon enough, all of that past when we got into a pandemic, and are like, Ah, this is this is going to be the fear monger, this is going to be the challenge that we have to face is actually in the physical body in the physical realm, like, you know, threat to our cellular survival in some sense. And that's still going on in some ways with the war. I feel like it's a continuation of that strangling of our fear body, can we actually win it? Can we like, do we drown in it? Or do we find resilience to a fine courage to we accept the challenge that Pluto is throwing to us? And I'm not sure exactly what's going on in the States as a kind of collective consciousness field. But you know, the states is due for their Pluto return, which is also going to take years just came

Keri Norley 

in, just started to come in on and they were saying it was the first time for the Pluto return to happen since the states was actually founded. Yes, like, yeah, so it's coming back to how we had the forefathers wanted us to, to be ultimately and anything that isn't that is going to fall away again. And there's been so much corruption is and stuff that is not what the forefathers for forefathers actually wrote into what this land what these people are actually about. And there's so much misinformation about what's actually happening and what's law and what's not law in the Constitution and our Declaration of Independence. Like, what's going on right now goes against so much of what the forefathers actually wanted for this country, and what is actually written in our rights, and our basic human rights. And yet the government's are telling us that this is what is okay. And it's not. And so it's so interesting, we very interesting to see, because Pluto comes into right, like, literally, I think last week was when it started to hit into two Americas return. And so you know, everything that is not that was is going to fall away. And, and so prepare yourselves Americans. But then prepare yourselves the world, right? Because what happens here, I

Mia Mor 

Yeah, and I want to, I want to emphasize that for me, especially kind of turning to Pluto as a teacher, so I look at all the planets as they are here to teach us something. And now it's Pluto's turn to teach America. And it's almost it'll teach through taking away things. So it's taking away safety or security or, you know, like, who knows what's going to happen in the next few weeks, but it's already started, I've seen kind of the society ripple and, you know, have all it's all its internal conflicts, but it might also strip the ego away, it might actually, you know, humble America, and boil it back right back down into the bones of the Constitution. And I want it to be this experience of actually finding the freedoms that you really stand for on the other side of it. Because America has a beautiful constitution, right? Like, it's one of the first countries to say all men are equal, like all men are free to pursue happiness and do these things. So it will, what I'm seeing kind of geopolitically speaking, is that America and you know, all of the kind of western world that has a basis on individual freedom is going to have to stand up for it is almost like, we need to choose between being driven by corporate interests or, you know, bowing to China or whatever is going to happen in the global field. But we can't we're gonna hold on to some things. And I feel like that freedom speech, freedom, peace, speech, is one of the biggest things that we actually will not give up. And that again, sometimes comes very clear only through letting like losing something.

Keri Norley 

Yes. And then being asked like, you know, I've said for a while, like, it's only until we've started to have to make these choices that were actually having to you know, you start to see even what's happening in Canada right now with the truckers, on on strikes. And you know, we've just been noticed, well, I've seen that you Colorado setting truckers in like, we're starting to get American. So we're gonna start to see things, we'll start to see more problems in the supply chain stuff because of this, which is going to squeeze people to more discomfort. And ultimately, I think we'll come back to forests. Actually, on that note, we're gonna come back to forests. We're gonna go back to Boris. It's so funny because me Oh, we've we've read just before we got on. She's like, I really want to talk about wealth because of this, because Mia and I love this perspective about what Mia means perspective on wealth. Because when I look at me, and ever since I've met you like money, money is almost irrelevant. Like, it's not something that she has an attachment to comes and goes, if I have it, she'll always find a way. And it's, it's beautiful. I admire you so much for this, your perspective. So I would love to hear it, though. Like, what are we going to, like, you know, when we start to look at wealth, and we start to look at all of these things that are coming for us right now. And we come into this body place? And how do we? And all these things that are happening on the planet? How do we how can we prepare ourselves? Or what do we need to know is we release these attachments to things? And how these attachments have hooked us into a belief that doesn't necessarily matter. Yeah. So

Mia Mor 

I want to say like, Yes, I don't have a lot of attachment. And that's probably thanks to having, having grown up with land, having grown up with forest and feeling like that is my goal. That is my resource. And I'm shaking a little bit in it, because right now, I was like, Well, what if Russia starts to bomb its neighbors, you know, like, there's a very real risk in some sense of the word that he's not just joking. And it's like, wow, my land is right at the Russian border, my, the forest that I grew up in is really close to all of this havoc, just a little bit up north. Like if I lose that, like what wealth do I have left, you know, like, my forest is my support system, it is a custodian of land and I want to speak on behalf of that land. That feels really clear even if I'm now settled in Australia, I kind of relate to the indigenous sense of like being a custodian speaking for the land speaking for the rights of that and having a connection to it directly through your body. So that is my biggest wealth that I've grown up with and my attachment to it. And then I can also see a little bit of shadow on like, the detachment or the avoidance, let's say the avoidant relationship to money where I don't necessarily pursue contacts and people that have you know, contacted me to work with me I just like I just drop them into my mailbox Like I can't deal with this I'm not like some parts are still resisting it's almost like money if I dialogue with money in itself money's like, why don't you want me I'm here like just take me and I'm like, I don't I don't know if I want to meet you like

I don't like this whole like the anxious attachment style thing and like I don't really want to be attached to you.

Mia Mor 

So a lot of my life has been that you know, kind of opportunistic, I'll asleep where I end up when I was traveling, I'll I'll meet people and I'll feel where I need to be and I'm still kind of like, well if I go to prison or go to prison, and then I'll you know, live there and write my books and dance with people and like, I'll I'll resource from what is around me. But I feel like collectively, we are going to face a lot of attachment stuff connected to wealth and money and survival. Because all of the things right now, you know,

Keri Norley 

when you say attachment stuff, two shots, what does that look like? So, from my

Mia Mor  

perspective, kind of world economy, we talked about, like we can talk about inflation's and crypto and everything that's kind of you know, chalking us the price of gas and wood and these may like major, like resources is going up. I'm sure

Keri Norley 

how much Australia right now.

Mia Mor 

It's getting to $2 per liter,

Keri Norley 

that's about $8 A gallon Americans go on.

Mia Mor 

Cool. Glad you can do the conversion. So it's, it's getting hectic, I've seen it like go from one to two. So it's like 50% increase from what it was last year, pretty much. And all of that is going to jerk us and I can see people who are scrambling for resources and you know, wanting to grapple new things and investments and, you know, can't kind of get into this anxiety place around wealth and needing to have land or needing to have money. community. And we've really talked about it with my household, like, we don't really have an attachment to that right now, like, I don't think it is a realistic choice to just go back in the woods and shut ourselves off from what's happening globally and what's happening collectively. And the other side of that would be the avoidant relationship to all of the wealth and just kind of, I can see a lot of beauty in that kind of the resilience of, okay, I've got useful tools, and those useful tools will always be worth bartering for, you know, I can see that in plumbers, we're always going to need plumbers, we're always gonna need agriculture, like farming people. So I can see the resilience of people teaching themselves or in some ways going into that. Even the crypto people are buying land, you know, it's actually not just like, crypto land or digital land, you need physical land, you need somewhere to put yourselves like we still have this. But I would love us to get into a secure relationship to wealth to money, where it's not an obsession, it doesn't become this, what I guess rich people often have where it's just can more greed and more anxiety, which is great, because it's makes you dynamic, and makes you grab opportunities, you're just, you know, investing into stocks and doing this and doing that in five companies. And it's still not enough. I'd love us to get into a place where it's a reciprocal relationship. And I can see that kind of happening now in my community because of the flood yesterday, and today, people are like, well, I've got a house, you can stay there for free. I've got resources, I've got this Dad, what do we need. So it's only these crises, moments that really pull us into one community like social resource and social wealth. Wealth of sharing resources, like it's no longer just a music festival. This is not burning man, this is like flooding them right now where I am. And it's a chance for people to create soup kitchens, like, Okay, we need a huge, we need to clean up the whole city. No one's expecting the government to do it, you know, also in a very similar say, like, no one's going to come and help us out. It's, it's going to be community. I'm, that's what makes us resilient. And, you know, having that with your local neighborhood, wherever you live, is probably one of the best forms of wealth that you can have like, Okay, I've got good relations. And you know, we help each other out back into that neighborly connection,

Keri Norley 

which is the forest come back to community.

Mia Mor 

Yeah, I'm like, which is kind of interesting, because I'm looking at the situation with Russia and Ukraine. And as a bordering countries, Russia, like where I come from, we've always been very aware that we can not upset our neighbors like, we do not want to become enemies of Russia. No, that is not in like that is not an option.

Keri Norley 

I don't think you've said where you come from. Yeah, I mean, I know. But

Mia Mor 

I come from Finland. Swami, which, yeah, we've we've had our independence for 100 years. But we have a long, long, long history before that with Russians and being, you know, part of it and all of that I feel, in some sense, I just wrote this post last night about, I feel like we're the same land, like my forest is the same forest that extends past that border, you know, like, what is even that border, my grandma grew up in the other side of the border. And when she was born, she was we were all still Russia. So I don't want to become enemies. I like I know, the Russian people and me share so much of the same connection to land, we share the same kind of history of struggle in the in the Arctic kind of cold and the climate conditions and the resilience of actually 100 years ago having to do everything on our own being self sourcing being completely kind of shut off from the rest of the world. So I'm looking at everything that's happening right now. Like, we do not want to make enemies with our neighbors on either side. But the West is kind of further from us than the Russian law. So it's a very delicate situation. And I'm sure that's the same with Ukraine. Like there's a lot of interconnection, there's a lot of marriage there's a lot of people who come from one or the other side and live in the other country now, but it's very on Yeah, we're not like one nation against the other we're actually the same peoples. And yeah, that that just breaks my heart in a way that you know, some people are saying no, like this soldiers who are like I don't want to fight these people are my family. They are my family. They you know, we share a lot

Keri Norley 

It's interesting, it comes back down to one unnecessarily. And it's so it's so. So beautiful actually, as we start to kind of, you know, wrap this that it turns to come back to oneness and what I'm ultimately what I ultimately hear from you when you know, we started that little place that you went off to talking about attachments. And if I bring this all together, it feels like right now, on the, on the planet and in ourselves, we have, we have the ability to look at attachments. And when I think of attachments, I think of like, what are we holding tight to write? What visions are we holding tight to? What do we think we need? What do we think we must have? And even beyond that, like attachments to old versions of ourselves? are old, toxic relationships, or any of these things? Right? Like, what are we holding on to? On a very personal level? Even like, if you look globally, like what are we looking at from relationships that are toxic country relationships that no longer work, or that our relationships with with currency, the US dollar, the fiat currency, right, like we're holding on to an education system that frickin sucks, right? We are holding on to an attachment to a healthcare system that is a sick care system. Right. And we have these attachments. And I would say codependent relationships. I know I'm personally working through my own stuff on codependency. And I would say most human beings, unless they have done this work are codependent on other human beings on other things on other places on experiences, like I need to have my rag or my dummy or whatever it is right? To be like, I need to soothe myself and like part of what we were saying like in our bodies, like, part of the work of the nervous system in our work in this world is how can I self soothe without needing anybody or anything else? But then that goes to this global place, too. And so what I'm hearing you is like, if we were to look at these attachments on a very personal level, like where can I let go of what's no longer serving me? And also, where can I let go of systemic things that we think we need that don't need? And where am I going to have the gift of being able to let go of convenience of things that we might not be able to get like, I know, I already go to the grocery store? And I'm like, Oh, that's not there. Okay, let's get creative. What are we going to do now? Yeah, right, because this isn't going to end anytime tomorrow. By the time you've produced it, it's not going to end it's only going to get worse, we're going to see less and less. And so from that, if we then look and we bring this into void, right, so if we look at these attachments, one of the ways that we can then clear this, because when we have these attachments I feel in my body, it feels uncomfortable, right? Sometimes it leaves me breathless, sometimes it leaves me tingling, sometimes it leaves me with something in my body that doesn't feel comfortable. And when I think of that, I think Okay, so my job because this is how we can feel this, right, like attachments we might not consciously know of, and you don't even have to consciously have an awareness of like, what you're feeling in your body, that it's like an attachment to an ex boyfriend from 20 years ago. Doesn't matter what it is. Right? It's just that we can feel it. And then through this movement through what me and I were talking about with movement again, like even if you're at your house, just start moving, and allow your body to just move however it wants to move. And you'll feel like there's a sticky spot in your room and you're like, Oh, what is that spot and you kind of want to just move your rib, and it doesn't look pretty necessarily I'm saying quote unquote, right? It might not look like I'm this beautiful ballerina dancing, that doesn't matter. It will probably actually look beautiful. By the way. You just might not think that and be more authentic, right? That's why it will look really beautiful. But then how can we then we take these attachments and we can move them with our bodies to be able to release them. And then also with the global stuff, right, we can start to look at, okay, if I release this attachment to what it has to look like, if I release the attachment to you know, like sometimes even in our personal lives, our business lives, whatever, like we have these goals, and then this big stuff is happening in the world. And you know, two years ago the word was pivot, right. And everybody wanted to vomit it the word pivot, right, because we all just can pivot some way or shape or form. But like, it's still a matter of like, ultimately, how can we be creative, to move through and let go of what we thought we needed or didn't need in the world so that we can come together in oneness. You know, and like you mentioned crypto for me one of the reasons I love the concept of crypto in this in this world, and regeneration is that it does create oneness, right like crypto means that we can actually start having borderless worlds we can have borderless currency, when we start to look at Dows we can start to have borderless governing, right like we can actually become one without borders and so that we don't fight like Russia. In Ukraine are doing right now for power, because that's my brother sitting there right across the street from me, not another country down the road, you know. And then from that, as you said, like we look at for me regeneration. And so how can we create this wealth? It's regenerative, but then how can we take that back and put it into our land? And how can we live in unison with our land? And I think to me, this is like, the pinnacle of everything that I am working towards is like, how can we have the most regenerative world, but it only will happen? If we can actually look into these dark places, go into the void places, find the peace within because to me, that void spot is where you were, I will say, like, ah, there's peace in myself, right? Because I'm not attached to other things because I have released the stuff. And that's and I am with you, me, like I have battled depression, anxiety, panic attacks, and still they will come like it's not I'm human. So like, still, I will get that when I'm going through big stuff like this isn't, you know, like, it's not one and done. But the way through that is okay, I felt that I experienced that. And even now, like before, if you asked me to deal with that, I would have been I would have needed other people would have and I'm like, carry, you can breathe your way through this, like it's in your body. This is not this is in some way. I'm gonna say it's made up, right? It's like this is in your mind now in your body move it. Right. And it's the same thing as our planet right now. This is in our minds. So in our bodies, we get to move it.

Mia Mor 

Yes, yeah, there's a huge, I love how you're framing all of that. And I, the word that come to me comes to me three parenting. Because a lot of the attachment stuff is actually from a non like pre verbal state of our childhood. And then the mental stuff is all gathered afterwards as coping mechanisms as belief systems, like I need this in order to be safe, right? That's the, that's the grumbling into our staff or into our beliefs. Like, if I believe in this, and I hold on to it, I feel safer. But like you're saying, we need to let go of the story around what it is about, just be with the body, like, you know, move as you're watching the news. Like, just let your body actually process and move through the uncomfort of feeling anxious, fearful, whatever it is, and I wish that we don't regress back into the state where we become crying babies. And I'd wished us to actually reparent ourselves and like, feel where we can be held from the cosmos, from our own. Whatever our practice is, but dancing and void work, definitely taps into that where I feel like I'm held by a bigger entities, which ultimately is our planet. And we can create this healthy, secure relationship with land with each other, where I don't necessarily need you. But I love you, like I want to give to you. Which is you know, that's a way more beautiful place to defend our principles from like, we will know what matters, but only after we let go of all of the, the other stuff that's around and learn to self soothe in healthy ways, not just eating and watching TV.

Keri Norley 

And that my friends, I swear, I mean, I'm I it's been a journey. Like I can just think about me when I met you to where I am now. In my growing myself up and my self soothing abilities, I'm I'm air quoting people. It's kind of like night and day. And I know that there's still so much more to go. But I, I really believe like this is the way to your empowerment. And I say this because it's why we're talking about this on the show, like, in every area of your life, if you can self soothe yourself, if you can let go of the attachment to and the more that I let go of and this is such a funny thing. And I've even as a person who has taught this for years, years, I have talked manifestation. And what's the thing that most people attach to most is how much money we make. Right? It's the thing that we are most like, I'm going to make this I'm gonna do this, I made this goal and like the goal, the goal, the goal, the goal, the goal. And I I can I can say that as much as I set my goals in my intentions, the more that I actually release attachment to how the heck they show up for me, the more money shows up, the more that I really did Hashman to who it is how it is what it is done, and the less I care about it and just trust like, like you're saying, like we build this relationship that I can hold myself and trust. Then it just happens because I trust that it's going to happen and I'm held in the womb of it all right in that space. And it can be easy to be pulled out you guys were human is buck. All right, it's not just like a drop in once and it's done. No, we get to do it again and again. And so I just say that because if you're listening, and you haven't started to do the work to repair it yourself, if you haven't started to do the work to really learn how to match, I'm loving by the way, the noises of Australia that I'm hearing right now. If I have missed it, I miss home. If I haven't started to do the stuff to like, re, we repair it myself, and learn how to handle my own nervous system, it has been the most empowering like because we can finally hold ourselves alone. We can finally trust that everything is actually going to be okay. And whatever the world throws at me, and I know for me, I've had a lot of fear, like, Oh, what if? What if, what if, you know, and oh my god, I can't cope and yada yada and you know, all the fear stuff that comes in the scarcity and the lack. But when you just trust Him, like I keep I keep coming back to. I'm still okay. Like, I'm still okay, I'm still here, you and I are still talking. I still have money to pay for things. I still have food. I still have. And I've always had, even in the hardest times. Right? We are still here. And I think the more that we can let go of like anything that isn't that it's like maybe it's not exactly how you thought it was me. But you're still here, we can let go of that fear in that it's that stuff, then we make room for the vibration? That is like exactly actually what I want. And then I don't even have to work for it. It just shows up. Well, okay, now I do have to work for it. I'm not gonna get that, like, let's be I'm not leaving. You actually have I'm like, I don't want to get any mines, you actually have to show up and do the thing.

Mia Mor 

Yeah, we do. I mean, I'm, I'm so fortunate to work for myself and not I felt the kind of societal pressures and all of the other gimmicks that the government has played. And I'm like, Well, I'm not attached to this, like, I'm not even attached to being in Australia. Like, if you tell me to leave, I'll go. But, you know, I'm just here to do my work in the world. And it is like I'm employed by the universe, like, Okay, this is what needs to be done. And this is what I can transmit. And this is my part to play. And that feeds me. But again, like, I'm not attached to making riches out of it, like, I don't need to at this point I've had I have my land for now, at least where I owe those trees, my care and my love in the end of my life, for sure. But I think we are heading from an era of absolute expansion and wealth and luxuries and whatever we've had in the last, I don't know, 20 years, I think we're heading into a little bit of a crunch, like, what do you really need? What do you actually? Yeah, what do you need to survive or thrive? I was in the supermarket the other day, and I was like, I don't, I don't even believe in hoarding food. Like, that's not how my game is gonna go down. Like, I'd rather help people out and we'll make soup kitchens, and we'll go to farms and you know, that might be necessary in my neighborhood, like, I don't know how much crops and cattle and everything's just been destroyed by the floods. And I'm seeing how that actually activates people. Like, oh, now I have a purpose. Now I know what needs to be done. This is important. And I have like zero doubt that we're not going to make it through this as community. But no one individually can feed themselves and you know, have all of the abundance. So I love our conclusions around community and oneness and

Keri Norley 

trust. And it's so it's so funny to me, I'll finish off here. And then I'll say what, whatever you want to finish off with, but like, I find it so fascinating. And I think one of the things that's so almost weird and counterintuitive. Is that like for me, I think ultimately it comes down to how do we come back to more individualism right and that we self soothe and we take care of ourselves and we really take full responsibility for each as an individual. Right? And then through that we actually have oneness and love. And I find it so hilarious because it's actually like a counterintuitive thing. It's like well I'm supposed to give most people in this world like the opposite. If I give myself and I like martyr myself is the word right? And I do everything for everybody else. That's what's going to create oneness know, what creates oneness is actually being a total sovereign being in all aspects of the world. Word. And then together, we rise together we can come together in unison and oneness and rise. Yeah.

Yeah, we were somehow giving up our attachments boss to travel community that we thought we were going to be a part of, into, okay, I'm gonna just focus on deep breaths, doing my work moving around, not just listening to the news all the time.

Mia Mor 

Sovereignty and synergy are these popular terms thrown around in my community, like we need to be sovereign. And then we need to be in synergy with each other, which doesn't mean we're in codependence. But we all get to give our gifts. And we all get to support each other in that.

Keri Norley 

So, so beautiful. Thank you, Ms. Mijas has been amazing, I adore you. Tell people how they can find you where they can find you.

Mia Mor  

You can find me on most platforms as mystic me and more. And I have a website called the Dark oracle.com. And I offer whatever feels alive for me to offer. And a lot of it is actually going to be around relating and nervous systems and some women's work around embodiment and coming into a pure place of love and sexuality actually running through us because I Yeah, as a feminine embodied being. Without so much gender identification, I feel like there's something really powerful about a woman's body. That is an agent of change on this planet.

Keri Norley 

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It was really interesting. I'll say this really quickly to that I was on a Twitter space. Last week with with one of the guys was synced out team for talking about crypto stuff. And they asked me as a woman, because we're talking about conferences, resets and what it was like to be a woman in this space. And I'm like, it's, it's intense, like I can walk into a room with 100 men. And there could be five of us, right? And it's a very, very male dominated space, the crypto space, and I said, and they were asking what you know, he's talking about this feminine piece. And I said, you know, the exciting piece of it is that this space has been so male dominated for so long. And we're finally starting to get women in this. And I was like, and isn't it i There is no way that I can actually say that there is some like proof of this, but women birth, women give birth, right, and the power of a woman in her womb and her space to be able to quite literally birth something into the world is the same that we have energetically and everything else. And so I was just like, look at Watch, watch his women come into the space and we use our power, I get teary and like shaky and like, you know, and we use our power to help birth this, right, because the men have been, you know, doing it. But now all of a sudden, there's these women. And I'm like, and again, I can't say that this is going to have any dang thing. There's no proof in the world of it. Right? Because it's going to happen no matter what, whether a woman shows up or not, it's going to happen, let's be honest. But like, when we start to bring this feminine power and like, like, I love that we're going to end here the feminine power of our ability to create on this planet, there is something so powerful in that there's something so powerful in that and I think that I love that you're doing it because honestly, women again, like if you're looking for this work Mia is she has a take on it and just being in her presence around this. I watched her energy issues bodies, the feminine and the most beautiful, graceful way and reminds me often of the ways that I can come into the surrender into the simplicity into the and the power all at the same breath, you know, and the dominance and the like it's all there. Right? And and to own our power as a woman is profound. And as this energy, right, we're coming into this Aquarius season as the energy rises to the feminine rising. And so it's waking us up, it's waking these wounds up, it's waking us and saying come on women. But it's not saying by the way for women, it's not saying doing it in a powerfully masculine way of which we're going to go into masculine all the other men in the world know, we both get to rise and the men that are listening, you get to rise in your feminine to like this isn't just a female thing. So I love that you said

Mia Mor 

I want to plug my nfts I started to like enter into the space code. Days obsessed about it. And I was like this is such like I don't I don't relate at all to profile pictures and like most of the animations stuff. And I started producing my own NF Ts and it was all connected to it's a project called one worm. It's on open see if you want to go check it out. But it's all connected to how can I make something felt through this cyber medium it was like can I create soundscape imagery, poetry that actually will touch people through the screen? And I feel like that's kind of me in the essence of the feminine penetrating this field which is so male dominant with like, yeah, all of the attributes that you just named in terms of The softness and the power and the all of yeah, just what it is to be the woman like that polarity to go check it out.

Keri Norley 

We will thank you Miss Mia Mor, by the way for those of you who are listening so that you understand how to spell her name Am I a space Mor me up more. But like me, I'm more I love it. And it just stuck. I know I love it. I love it. And it was never when I first read it. I was like, I didn't connect it until I actually said like it's so beautiful. Thank you so much for being here. Until next week, everyone have a wonderful week. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If you love what you heard, please help us get this message out to more people because together we rise. Please review it, subscribe to the show and share on social media. When you share please tag me on Insta. I'm @KeriNorley And on Facebook  Keri Kaplan Norley is my official name there. Please come and connect with me on social media and say hello, I love hearing from my listeners. And thank you so much for your support. I'm so excited to help you bring in the new well.